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Mills Machine Question

Posted:
Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:01 pm
by Garyis2000
Special thank you to "midcoast vintage" for giving me just about all the great info I wanted.
Last thing I need is the exact name and year of this machine (ie: 1947 or 1948/ Mills, Crisscross, jewel, jewel bell ? etc) and maybe wholesale Value?
Thanks all...
Re: P

Posted:
Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:52 pm
by Midcoast Vintage
you're welcome.
probably a jewel bell.
if there is a serial # on the machine, can narrow down the year by that.
there are those on this forum who have serial # dates.
i do not have them available at this time, as they are packed away.
Re: P

Posted:
Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:29 pm
by Dave
Go to
http://www.CoinOpRegistry.com to research serial numbers.
Mills question..

Posted:
Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:42 pm
by Garyis2000
I took off the bonnet and the below number was on the case.
MLB 7618
I did check the link you gave me Dave but didn't see how to research this number.
Re: Mills question..

Posted:
Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:39 pm
by Midcoast Vintage
Garyis2000 wrote:I took off the bonnet and the below number was on the case.
MLB 7618
I did check the link you gave me Dave but didn't see how to research this number.
that is a casting / part number.
look on the back of the base, top side, left side, or, look at the sticker on inside on left side.
Re: Mills Machine Question

Posted:
Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:18 pm
by Garyis2000
Found it

561565
Re: Mills Machine Question

Posted:
Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:52 pm
by nvmos2
Your serial number dates the machine (at least the cabinet) to 1946.
My opinion:
It started out as a standard Mills Jewel High Top.
When the Criss Cross feature became popular, it was converted sometime after 1947,
possibly during a Baker revamp.
It has been through many hands, so there is no way to know for sure who did what or when.
I assume that you have verified that it does in fact have the Criss Cross mechanism/payout feature.
As far as value;
I would put it in the same range as any other non-original High Top machine in similar condition.
For me, that is less than an unmolested original Jewel Bell.
I don't pay attention to prices anymore, but there are enough High Tops around that you can gauge a selling price for yourself,
or use the online price guide available here.
Re: Mills Machine Question

Posted:
Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:49 pm
by Garyis2000
Thanks nvmos2 for all the great info. I'm impressed with knowledge this site has especially with these older machines that have soooo many variances.
I don't know how to check if there is something inside to verify the criss cross feature.
I'm surprised to hear there's a 1946 Hightop. I hadn't seen that before.
Re: Mills Machine Question

Posted:
Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:34 pm
by TheFatman
As far as checking the payout of the Criss Cross, it should pay 20 coins it you can see the 3 bars in any of the 9 window positions. You have a row above the payline and one below. If there is a bar visible in the first 3 spaces positions and the same for the next two verticle lines it should pay 20 coins. I have a Criss Cross machine which shows that info on the aluminum block to the right of the reels. I will post pics...
Dave
Re: Mills Machine Question

Posted:
Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:45 pm
by nvmos2
Garyis2000 wrote:
I'm surprised to hear there's a 1946 Hightop. I hadn't seen that before.
It should be noted that most, if not all, of the books indicate the Jewel Bell came out in 1947,
yet the Bueschel/Zimmerman serial number list shows a small number in the 1946 range and your 561565 number would appear to be in 1946.
Fatman;
Great photos
interesting to note the different style Criss Cross nameplate, reel ornament casting, and award plate.