A truly unique set of 5 Jennings machines for sale

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Re: A truly unique set of 5 Jennings machines for sale

Postby Dave » Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:06 pm

coppinpr wrote:Within the next couple of weeks I will be going live on my site (http://www.penny-arcade.info) with a sale of a complete, matched set, of 5 Jennings standard chief consol machines (5c,10,25c,50, and silver dollar ) This set has only had two owners since 1949 and the original owner was a top Mafia boss, these machines came from his private display at his mansion and were bought, in person, by the current owner over 40 years ago. they are untouched, pristine, and all working as they should.

My site has been asked to handle the sale for the current owner who is now getting older and wants to move these on to a new home,(they will not split the set)
I have decided to offer a sneak preview to collectors on this site as I know this is where the serious slot collectors can be found.

The sale page is not quite complete and has not been published as yet so this is a direct link to the page (more photos and info to come, including, hopefully, reg numbers) so take a look, if nothing else its an interesting

https://www.penny-arcade.info/unique-se ... sun-chiefs


The owner of those machines contacted me a few years ago. She was so proud of the so called provenance.

She said she would provide the provenance once I paid for the machines. Ummm, that is not how it works lady. She also bragged about how it would come with the money still in it and that money might be worth more than the $250,000, or whatever it was, that she wanted.

So, why don't you post the actual provenance on your site? I bet she has not given it to you.

Who was the supposed well known mobster? Let me bet. Al Capone???? You better have some original photos showing him with the machines and not just a piece of paper.
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Re: A truly unique set of 5 Jennings machines for sale

Postby coppinpr » Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:57 pm

Firstly, let me say I'm surprised at the rudeness of some of these replies, and also, as I made clear (although several of you don't seem to read all the posts) these are not my machines and I myself have no interest in them, in fact, I don't even live in the USA. I've been asked to offer them for sale, that's all , does the person running this site tell people off for offering machines for high prices, I don't think so,that's up to the seller not some tin pot collector on this site.I'm just doing as the owner asked, there isn't even any gain in it for me!!
As I said SEVERAL TIMES I'm just putting them on my site because the owner asked me to. in actual fact I agree with some of your evaluations although $1000 for a consol Jennings in perfect order is of course far too low, I could get $1,800 for each of these in the UK, easily!!

Also,I am not new to this site, I simply chose not to use it much for the same reasons many other (American) collectors have told me they no longer do, because its become a small-time club of people who like the sound of their own voices saying how clever they are :D
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Re: A truly unique set of 5 Jennings machines for sale

Postby coppinpr » Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:13 pm

As I said, it's clear some of you don't read the posts right through.
These machines have(as yet) never been offered on my site, my reason for previewing the ad on here was because I suspected there might be a story behind these, as I say I'm not in the US, so I put it on here to see the response, and I got it...that's for your help :wink:
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Re: A truly unique set of 5 Jennings machines for sale

Postby saloonkpr » Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:09 pm

On This Supposed Site ,Admin CAN'T Even Spell Caille RIGHT ???
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Re: A truly unique set of 5 Jennings machines for sale

Postby Dave » Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:23 pm

coppinpr wrote:Firstly, let me say I'm surprised at the rudeness of some of these replies, and also, as I made clear (although several of you don't seem to read all the posts) these are not my machines and I myself have no interest in them, in fact, I don't even live in the USA. I've been asked to offer them for sale, that's all , does the person running this site tell people off for offering machines for high prices, I don't think so,that's up to the seller not some tin pot collector on this site.I'm just doing as the owner asked, there isn't even any gain in it for me!!
As I said SEVERAL TIMES I'm just putting them on my site because the owner asked me to. in actual fact I agree with some of your evaluations although $1000 for a consol Jennings in perfect order is of course far too low, I could get $1,800 for each of these in the UK, easily!!

Also,I am not new to this site, I simply chose not to use it much for the same reasons many other (American) collectors have told me they no longer do, because its become a small-time club of people who like the sound of their own voices saying how clever they are :D


You say you could easily get $1,800 in the UK for each one. OK, that is fine, yet your site is advertising them for $15,000 EACH.

Let's see, $1,800 * 5 is $9,000 yet your site is asking $75,000. That is a difference of $66,000!!!

Normally, I don't comment on prices people are asking but I have had personal history with the owner who was trying to convince me that they were worth $300,000 and had appraisals to justify it. When I asked to see the appraisals I would get them after I forked over the $300,000. She went on to brag about how much the original money in the machines could be worth.

When she eventually determined I was not going to bite she said "The slot are sold. There is no reason for you to continue to contact me. ". That was on 11/23/2020. Apparently they are not sold.

So, you state
This set has only had two owners since 1949 and the original owner was a top Mafia boss, these machines came from his private display at his mansion and were bought, in person, by the current owner over 40 years ago. they are untouched, pristine, and all working as they should.


I am asking you for the proof of the statement.

If you cannot prove it then why did you make the statement?
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Re: A truly unique set of 5 Jennings machines for sale

Postby Dave » Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:26 pm

Go to http://www.casinoantiques.com if you want to read what the owner says about them.
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Re: A truly unique set of 5 Jennings machines for sale

Postby cait001 » Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:29 pm

The site says the gangster is Carlos Marcello https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Marcello
Provenance needs to be presented and scrutinized fully. I think we're dealing with some pie-in-the-sky seller who thinks they have a retirement fund because they watched one too many reality TV shows.

I am familiar with coppinpr and they are fine people. They have not made the claims, just helped bridge an individual (who sadly doesn't understand the market) with collectors, as they have done before in the past. But perhaps their phrasing here is unfortunately lending legitimacy to a somewhat sketchy story.


Let's play a hypothetical:
As a set, let's say they are worth about $14k USD.
If they were owned by, say, Al Capone, and we had very good provenance showing they were Capone's, like a picture from inside Capone's game room with him there, and maybe a note from a Capone biographer.
How much would they be worth then?

Would they push past $30k? I'm not sure.
'Item Y from the collection of X" can be tricky because you need to find a buyer that is motivated by a love of item Y and an obsession with person X. Perhaps that's easier for slot machines because of the mob history? Would certainly be easier for Capone collectors.
Perhaps less easy to find Marcello collectors who also care about slot machines, given that collectors for him are probably more coming from the JFK side.
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Re: A truly unique set of 5 Jennings machines for sale

Postby cait001 » Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:36 pm

Dave wrote:Go to http://www.casinoantiques.com if you want to read what the owner says about them.


love to sell things for 5-figures and post photos using a dusty webcam from 1992 :-D

The site says
"Recent appraisal and research books on this collection were done by Florida State Historian, Roland Castro. He has agreed to participate in making an exhibit an exceptional recapture of a by gone era.
Mr. Castro was a celebrity guest appraiser on the Antiques Roadshow. He is a graduate of the University of Miami and has traveled all over the world seeking knowledge and history on all exclusive art forms."


a quick search turns up nothing on said "celebrity appraiser". Do they mean the French architect?
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Re: A truly unique set of 5 Jennings machines for sale

Postby Dave » Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:45 pm

cait001 wrote:
Dave wrote:Go to http://www.casinoantiques.com if you want to read what the owner says about them.


love to sell things for 5-figures and post photos using a dusty webcam from 1992 :-D

The site says
"Recent appraisal and research books on this collection were done by Florida State Historian, Roland Castro. He has agreed to participate in making an exhibit an exceptional recapture of a by gone era.
Mr. Castro was a celebrity guest appraiser on the Antiques Roadshow. He is a graduate of the University of Miami and has traveled all over the world seeking knowledge and history on all exclusive art forms."


a quick search turns up nothing on said "celebrity appraiser". Do they mean the French architect?


Since when is a historian qualified to do appraisals?
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Re: A truly unique set of 5 Jennings machines for sale

Postby Dave » Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:52 pm

cait001 wrote:I am familiar with coppinpr and they are fine people. They have not made the claims, just helped bridge an individual (who sadly doesn't understand the market) with collectors, as they have done before in the past. But perhaps their phrasing here is unfortunately lending legitimacy to a somewhat sketchy story..


Didn't coppinpr state
This set has only had two owners since 1949 and the original owner was a top Mafia boss, these machines came from his private display at his mansion and were bought, in person, by the current owner over 40 years ago. they are untouched, pristine, and all working as they should.


Sounds like a claim to me.

He should be able to back it up.
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