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Are Mills machines designed to reject wrong coins?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:41 am
by Marcellous
I have a 25 cent War Eagle and wondering what would happen if a penny, nickel or dime was played. Did Mills have a way of dealing with this? There is no coin return slot so what happens to these coins? I dare not try it in my machine because I don't want to fowl it up. Would appreciate a response.

Re: Are Mills machines designed to reject wrong coins?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:10 am
by watlingboy
They go into a metal slug box that is or was mounted to the upper right hand side of the cabinet if you’re looking at the back of the machine. If yours is missing, you will see the two holes where it was attached. Watling returned the wrong coin out the front, Mills kept it.
George

Re: Are Mills machines designed to reject wrong coins?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:29 pm
by Marcellous
Thanks so much George. WOW!!! I just checked my machine and I DO have the metal slug box attached. =D> =D> I can only hope and assume this always works. Not sure I have the nerve to put a nickel in to find out. I just don't want my escalator fowled up.

The love of these old bandits. I played many as a very young child and they were illegal. This War Eagle I have pays out a jackpot that is typical of fifteen dollars but I have gotten as much as $18.75. As you know it is all according to how packed the jackpot window is. What really blows my mind is the huge amount of money you can put in the machine to get a mere fifteen dollars. Twenty dollars goes quickly for the few small wins you get. They really were built for the suckers. I play mine every day and consider it one of the best investment I ever made. So much fun to play and thrilling to get a jackpot. I have gotten quite a few. One time I got the jackpot, I put in the next quarter and the bars came right back and I got the reserve. The odds of that happening are about like winning the Lotto.

Thanks again -

Re: Are Mills machines designed to reject wrong coins?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:15 pm
by MONTI
Marcellous wrote:Thanks so much George. WOW!!! I just checked my machine and I DO have the metal slug box attached. =D> =D> I can only hope and assume this always works. Not sure I have the nerve to put a nickel in to find out. I just don't want my escalator fowled up.

The love of these old bandits. I played many as a very young child and they were illegal. This War Eagle I have pays out a jackpot that is typical of fifteen dollars but I have gotten as much as $18.75. As you know it is all according to how packed the jackpot window is. What really blows my mind is the huge amount of money you can put in the machine to get a mere fifteen dollars. Twenty dollars goes quickly for the few small wins you get. They really were built for the suckers. I play mine every day and consider it one of the best investment I ever made. So much fun to play and thrilling to get a jackpot. I have gotten quite a few. One time I got the jackpot, I put in the next quarter and the bars came right back and I got the reserve. The odds of that happening are about like winning the Lotto.

Thanks again -



That's why they say "THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS" cuz it does and if we had a mechanical slot that "Repeated" as you mentioned when I worked in the casinos back in the day it would go to the slot shop for cleaning and adjustments and that is also why they came up with "Clock Variators" as shown here below!
Ciao!
MONTI

VARIATOR.jpg

Re: Are Mills machines designed to reject wrong coins?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 12:58 pm
by mechanic
MONTI wrote:
Marcellous wrote:Thanks so much George. WOW!!! I just checked my machine and I DO have the metal slug box attached. =D> =D> I can only hope and assume this always works. Not sure I have the nerve to put a nickel in to find out. I just don't want my escalator fowled up.

The love of these old bandits. I played many as a very young child and they were illegal. This War Eagle I have pays out a jackpot that is typical of fifteen dollars but I have gotten as much as $18.75. As you know it is all according to how packed the jackpot window is. What really blows my mind is the huge amount of money you can put in the machine to get a mere fifteen dollars. Twenty dollars goes quickly for the few small wins you get. They really were built for the suckers. I play mine every day and consider it one of the best investment I ever made. So much fun to play and thrilling to get a jackpot. I have gotten quite a few. One time I got the jackpot, I put in the next quarter and the bars came right back and I got the reserve. The odds of that happening are about like winning the Lotto.

Thanks again -



That's why they say "THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS" cuz it does and if we had a mechanical slot that "Repeated" as you mentioned when I worked in the casinos back in the day it would go to the slot shop for cleaning and adjustments and that is also why they came up with "Clock Variators" as shown here below!
Ciao!
MONTI

VARIATOR.jpg



THOSE VARIATORS ARE SWEET I HAVE A FEW! THE BACK STRAP ONE IS INTERESTING IT TIGHTENS AND LOOSENS THE BRAKE WIRES. ONLY SEEN TWO.

Re: Are Mills machines designed to reject wrong coins?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 1:40 pm
by watlingboy
The Caille Big 6 which pays 5 for 1 on all colors has an elliptical wheel in the back which puts varying pressure on the wheel shaft to change wheel speed and discourage rhythm players.

George

Re: Are Mills machines designed to reject wrong coins?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 1:56 pm
by saloonkpr
??? Uprights ??

Re: Are Mills machines designed to reject wrong coins?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:22 pm
by MONTI
watlingboy wrote:The Caille Big 6 which pays 5 for 1 on all colors has an elliptical wheel in the back which puts varying pressure on the wheel shaft to change wheel speed and discourage rhythm players.

George


"Rhythm Players" is a term I haven't heard of in a while!
Back in the late 60's we would catch "Crossroaders" using that method which was rather obvious to recognize by their hand and arm movements!
There used to be a guy Bill J. who had it down pretty good in Stateline, South Tahoe, as it was not an easy way to beat a slot machine!
T hank's for jarring my brain George!
Hope all is well down your way!
Bona Fortuna!
MONTI

Re: Are Mills machines designed to reject wrong coins?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:19 pm
by kentdun
Ok, what was crossroading or rhythm playing?
I assume we are talking about the mechanical slots from the 60s.

As for modifications. I have a Mills castle front.

It has a hasp for a lock on the handle.
Looks like it was made for this, although could have had other uses.

Re: Are Mills machines designed to reject wrong coins?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2022 7:37 pm
by flyingfred
My initial Mills Blue Bell High Top that I have had for over 50 years was my machine to try out ideas on. I had heard at the time that pulling the handle the same way every time, gave you a better chance to hit the big one. On that machine, it is three 7's on the center line. Being 20 stops per reel I figured that there was an 8,000 to one chance of hitting it. There is a 5 sided cam that helps to control the amount of push on the reels when the fingers release. It moves during each play. I tried many times to set the cam the same way with the reels in the same position but was never able to make the machine repeat. Was this the Mills gimmick to control rhythm or crossroading? Am I even close to what rhythm or crossroading is?

-Fred-