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You only got four quarters out the coin tube on a jackpot? If it was me, I'd check the upper payout slides to see if they are stuck or contain jammed/skewed coins. The top payout slide is typically the trigger for dropping the little JP in the window.

[Disclaimer: I know next to nothing about the Mills mechs, but some sort of top-slide-JP-trigger gizmo certainly exists on all of my cheap-o Cailles and Paces.]

I know that the 2 jackpots are not "stuck"- but hearing that the top one triggers the bottom this tells me the machine must at some point have something trigger the top jack pot- I just don't know what it is. Would it continue to stick out until next play? if so then could I pull the machine out and see what to adjust or fix??????

Hello there-- Not saying the jackpots are stuck, nor that the top (reserve) JP triggers the bottom JP. What I'm suggesting is that the upper COIN SLIDES may be stuck or contain a coin jam. The coin slides can be found just above the right hand coin cup-- yes, you'll have to pull out the mech to have a look at them. They look like flat, rectangular stacks of metal ingots, some thicker than others. They have holes in them of the same diameter as the coins, and they drive the coins from the coin tube to the payout cup on a "win." From your report of getting only four coins out of a jackpot win, I'd guess the bottom two slides "worked" but the several above them didn't-- including the uppermost coin slide which should trigger the jackpot coins you see in the window to drop into the tray.

That's my best guess, but I've been wrong before.

Are there any Mills mavens out there who can help here?

bobsterncat wrote:I know that the 2 jackpots are not "stuck"- but hearing that the top one triggers the bottom this tells me the machine must at some point have something trigger the top jack pot- I just don't know what it is. Would it continue to stick out until next play? if so then could I pull the machine out and see what to adjust or fix??????

Where are you located if close enough to me you can bring your machine over and I can help you T.J.

I am in Monument Colorado. I also have my machine mounted onto a Jack DeLong wooden indian.

I can pull the innards out easily.

I pulled the mech. Found the slides and examined them and the tube I can get coins to manually come out no problem looked in between with a flashlite saw no coins stuck. However I looked at the top slide. It initiates the jack pot. then I went to the machine and pushed the bar with the two winglike flaps and the bottom jackpot issued forth, hiowever the top did nothing. I cannot manually get the top jackpot to release coins. I know these can be touchy but stil am at a loss. I looked at the brakes etc, could not find a problem I can see. It may be the machine is correctly issuing the jackpot but my jackpot issuer is not working right? I discovered that i pussh the bottom tab in and the whole thing resets ready to isssue a jackpot...but the top coins stay.

Does this give any info to help me out???

Sounds like quarters on their side in the slides. Forget about the jackpot for a moment, you need to get all the slides to go back. Until you fix that, you won't be able to tell if the jackpot works or not. Cycle the mechanism, stop the clock, line up the 3 jackpot bars, even numbered bars only if it is a 10 stop machine, let the fan go and see if all the slides go back. If not, check to see that the vertical finger is going through all 3 pay discs and releasing all the horizontal fingers. Those are the flat bars stacked on top of one another in back of the slides. I won't be because the slides are dirty or greasy because on the jackpot, the entire slide unit moves together. Let us know if what has happened when you try that.

Watlingboy

What WatlingBoy says is correctamundo. Might I also add...........You mentioned that the upper jackpot would not dump after the lower one did. The upper JP is not meant to dump at the same time. It is the reserve JP, and will release into the lower one, only to be dumped, the next time the 3 bars line up, which will not be 'too soon'. In the meantime, as you play the machine, the upper reserve will be filled again. I don't know how far away Monument, CO is from Lakewood, CO, but I have a long-time collector, and good friend, that may be able to help you with your problem, in the event you can not get it figured out. He is also a member of this forum group, and may see this. If not, let me know at slotdynasty@sbcglobal.net , and I can send you his contact number.