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Caille superior bell mechanism pictures needed.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:56 pm
by talvalewis
I could sure use some pictures or a source for a manual. The biggest problem is with the reel kicker. Thanks, Terry

Re: Caille superior bell mechanism pictures needed.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:31 pm
by marsonion
http://www.crowriver.com/books/bk10803.htm

So, what's the problem with your reel kicker--?

Sometimes they don't return far enough to give you a good "kick." Other times, the flippity-doo-dad that hooks the payout wheel teeth gets gummy and "stuck-up," resulting in a "misfire." Sometimes the whole shebang gets bent or comes undone and rides the reel axle, or scrapes the payout wheels and/or reel tins.

And there can be other problems too!

:lol:



talvalewis wrote:I could sure use some pictures or a source for a manual. The biggest problem is with the reel kicker. Thanks, Terry

Re: Caille superior bell mechanism pictures needed.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:23 am
by christopheb
Hi Talvalewis,
I would love to post pictures of my Superior, but it is currently undergoing surgery due to some serious... kicker problems !! Could this be a commun problem on Cailles ?
What are the symptoms on your machine ? On mine, the kicker did not properly 'grab' the reels, and more often then not, the reels would not spin at all, or spin very lightly.

I have manged to find someone who is happy to look into this and will hopefully fix my issue.
I shall tell you (& post pictures) as soon as my machine comes back from maintenance... Could take another few weeks, though.

Hopefully, someone else will help you and post pictures in the meantime.
Christophe

Re: Caille superior bell mechanism pictures needed.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:03 am
by talvalewis
Thank you very much! I'll be waiting

Re: Caille superior bell mechanism pictures needed.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:38 am
by tsparts4u
Hi,
If you are getting a bad reel spin, there might possibly be a problem with the plate that is attached to the main operating lever in front of reel #1. If there is a wear notch where this plate makes contact with the ratchet that it engages, it may be slipping and the reels will not spin properly. This is a hardened plate, so if you have it welded to correct the notch, use a hard weld. Another thought as to a slower reel spin than you would like, would be to increase tension on the spring behind the payout slides (see sketch). I have attached a few pictures, but they are not very good quality. I hope this is of some help to you. I tried to upload 2 more pictures, but they only allow 3 maximum.
Jerry

Re: Caille superior bell mechanism pictures needed.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:31 am
by marsonion
talvalewis wrote:Thank you very much! I'll be waiting


I can help you better if you tell us just what sort of kicker problem you're experiencing.

Attached are images of the guts of my Grand Prize kicker, exposed by dropping the escalator (removing one screw does it) and pulling the coin tube (another single screw holds that, too). As I indicated earlier, the flap that engages the payout wheel teeth (A) must be free to move easily under the force of gravity alone. If it is sticky, it will hang up and miss the teeth. Also, it is very important that the reel trigger (B) does not release too soon or you'll get a weak kick. The adjustable tension spring TSParts describes (C) ought to be checked, in case it is unsprung or weakly attached; tightening it a notch or two may help, but only incrementally, if the problem is a weak kick. In my experience with Cailles, the vertical rod (D) has more than once been the source of serious kicker problems. Check that it is not bent, as this part endures a lot of both tensile and compressive stresses, repeatedly. Fetch it out and straighten it if necessary. One thing this rod does is reset the kicker at the end of the cycle; if it's shorted or bent, the kicker will not be positioned to swing through a large enough arc to very effectively propel the reels.

Again, it would be best to tell us exactly what you're observing going wrong with your machine.

Re: Caille superior bell mechanism pictures needed.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:19 pm
by marsonion
Hello--?

marsonion wrote:Again, it would be best to tell us exactly what you're observing going wrong with your machine.

Re: Caille superior bell mechanism pictures needed.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:24 pm
by talvalewis
Thanks for all the help. I took the kicker out and put an offset in the arm. Works fine now. I'll be posting pictures of the leftover parts when I get further along. Terry