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Groetchen Twenty One Trade Stimulator

Posted:
Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:30 pm
by Bob K
I'm looking for a picture of the key for the lock on the backdoor. Anybody got one?
Re: Groetchen Twenty One Trade Stimulator

Posted:
Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:16 pm
by Bob K
OK, so nobody has a picture of a key for this machine. Does anybody know how to pick the lock on this machine?
Re: Groetchen Twenty One Trade Stimulator

Posted:
Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:01 pm
by altort
Here is a picture of my twenty one, hope it helps, but I have several groetchen trade stimulators with original lock and keys and there are different style and make locks.
Probably your best bet is to take it to a lock smith and have it opened wile you wait.
Good luck
Re: Groetchen Twenty One Trade Stimulator

Posted:
Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:48 pm
by Bob K
Thanks for the help, but my machine is not the 21 vender, it is the one with the words twenty one spelled out across the top. The lock looks like it has tumblers on the top and bottom of it. I think locksmithing is a lost art. I took it to a local locksmith and he wasn't interested. Said it might take him several hours to pick it. I called another locksmith company and they said that they didn't have set hours, but I needed to bring it by (What ??? ). I said I wasn't about to drag the thing back and forth until I happen to catch the guy there. I finally got them to commit to meeting me at their place of business at 3:15 today. I get there at 3:10 and a counter clerk tells me that the locksmith wasn't there and that I'd have to leave the machine. I said that isn't going to happen and left. Guess I'll have to drill it out. I appreciate the help though.
Re: Groetchen Twenty One Trade Stimulator

Posted:
Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:13 pm
by Midcoast Vintage
here is a link to pictures of several groetchen twenty one trade stimulators.
hopefully, the one you seek is pictured.
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sit ... h&imgdii=_
Re: Groetchen Twenty One Trade Stimulator

Posted:
Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:54 pm
by kentdun
Hello
Please don't drill the lock.
I have 2 21/blackjack stimulators. They are packed away because I just moved. I think one is a Groetchen . It's gray,7-8 inches square. 5 windows with buttons to release 2 "hit cards and the house score. Also vends a gumball.
The machine is packed in boxes and then I need to locate what safe place I put the keys to my machines.
I will look tomorrow and post pics if I can locate them.
Picking locks on most of these machines isn't too hard. Locating a good pick set can take some effort. You need to be a locksmith to buy them from a supplier. I have found them at estate sales.
Bobby pins. wires and paper clips can be used. They can also be homemade. Once you get it open you can remove the lock. A locksmith may be more willing to work on it. Also easier to mail the lock to have a key made. I am guessing some of the people here could recommend someone.
Googling lock picking can explain and show the techniques better than I can here. Also how to make picks. Most locks are pretty simple. Kind of scary how easy they are to pick. I heard once " Locks keep honest people out." The truth is burglars don't use picks. They just kick your door in or break a window.
I am always on the look out for loose keys at flea markets, estate sales etc. I separate them by type. Quite often find a match.
Good luck. Blackjack T/S's are a lot of fun.
Re: Groetchen Twenty One Trade Stimulator

Posted:
Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:48 am
by SLOT DYNASTY
Bob K wrote:I'm looking for a picture of the key for the lock on the backdoor. Anybody got one?
Bob:
If you post a good, close pix of your lock, I'll see if I can tell what style key it might take, as I have
a very large stock of keys. Some machine locks have a number stamped on the face. If yours does,
that will be the key number, and if I have that number, I can see if a blank is available to cut.
Bill
Re: Groetchen Twenty One Trade Stimulator

Posted:
Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:43 am
by Bob K
I should be able to get some pics up after work today. I didn't see a number on the lock. I'll check again tonight with a magnifying glass.
Re: Groetchen Twenty One Trade Stimulator

Posted:
Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:06 am
by kentdun
Here is the pic of my Groetchen Klix 21 game. Also pics of the keys. It has a split cash box. Both keys are marked ILCO.
Re: Groetchen Twenty One Trade Stimulator

Posted:
Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:10 pm
by Bob K
Here's a couple of pics of the lock. No numbers visible.