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Slot machine identity

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:18 pm
by Jwesley
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I have a slot machine that looks a lot like it was made by Sega but has Berkeley on the front. Does anyone know if these are the same company and direct me where I can find the value?
I have attached a picture to help.
Thank you in advance.

Re: Slot machine identity

PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:02 am
by SLOT DYNASTY
Your machine is a Sega. The 'Berkeley' is just one of their numerous model names.

Re: Slot machine identity

PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 10:35 am
by Anglobritish
Hi,
Sorry guy's the Berkley machine in the picture is NOT a Sega model, it was built by Mandry Brothers using either Sega Bell mechanism's or Mills High Top mechanism's, George and Harry Mandry were conversion specialist in the U.K in the early 1960's, they were also close to Jesse Piggot who worked for several of the early British distributors of the day including Phonographic Equipment, these guys worked closely doing conversions for me in those days, Mandry later sold out to the British division of the U.S Mills company but that company never really took of, and quickly disappeared, Harry and George along with Jesse Piggot had considerable success in developing a change stand for the various mechanical machines.

Fabulous characters, amonst my favorite people of the day.

Re: Slot machine identity

PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:04 pm
by SLOT DYNASTY
Well Freddy, I stand corrected again. I jumped the gun, because I call all of this case style Sega's.
Many models do not have the Sega script on front, so we don't really know for sure. Some of these
cases also have the Mills script on front as well, so that throws us off even more. Most of the Sega
machines I have come across, have all been Foreign-coined. The one shown above has a 5c badge,
which may have been put there to make us think it's a U.S. machine. If so, did they also install a
U.S. slide set to match?
Years ago, I was buying just about every machine, that a San Francisco furniture dealer was bringing
in with his container-loads of furniture, from across-the-pond. They were quite reasonable at the time,
and I would re-coin them to U.S. for resale. Most were Sega Bell, and Jennings "Governor" models. I left
a few 6-pence as-is, which operated great on U.S. pennies, for my children, and their friends to play,
which kept them away from my good stuff. They didn't care if all the payouts weren't correct, as long as
the clanking of coins into the tray made them happy. :D

Re: Slot machine identity

PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:31 pm
by Anglobritish
Hi Bill,
Don't feel bad, you are still the greatest in my book, I think the reason that there were so many variations of the Sega cabinet was it was a new modern style cabinet, up until they were introduced, there was only the High Top style, so when Jennings introduced their Governor model, the operators that were Mills supporters had to compete, so they bought these variations and installed their Mills mech's from their High Tops in them. These machines are still going cheap, in a recent Elephant Auctions, machine brought dismal prices,

Stay well my friend.

Freddy

Re: Slot machine identity

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:23 am
by Jwesley
Thank you for ending this mystery for me. As I see it, this is not a desirable machine and therefore not worth much if anything. Maybe the buffalo Nichels are worth a little.

I appreciate the help very much.

Jen

Re: Slot machine identity

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:54 pm
by Jwesley
Well, here I am again about this slot machine. After wearing out the "Google" I still cannot get an approximate value on this slot. Can anyone give me a ballpark figure please. Just want to be fair.
Thank you in advance.

Jen

Re: Slot machine identity

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:58 pm
by JHSS-1944
HI Jen; somewhere between $500.00 & $800.00. also depends on how bad you want to get rid of it......

I know it's Not a Sega machine but, close to it in looks, they tend to be low sellers. many "collectors want earlier machines & will pass on this not wanting to "waste $$", since the one they really want might show up tomorrow for sale.

A newer collector (or non collector) might want it due to the price & it's age (all mechanical, ect). in Any venue , price it at $800.00 & IF you feel the need to lower , then do so. pricing it at $500.00 , kinda hard to move the price upwards on any interested people..... Even though it's been tried here on the forum many times
a rare maker, that almost no one has heard of but, not many wanting to have it either. make sure it works as it should, clean it up a little if needed (presentation IS everything).
lots of luck Jen !!!

IF ,you plan on dragging it to a Antique shop / mall; jack up the price to about $1,200.00. this will help cover rent space , fees on the sale , ect. Plus , people pay stupid $$$$ when they find items at an Antique shop !!! Antique dealers actually pay stupid money on stuff too. trust me most dealers have no clue & think they have the only 1 & it's rare = worth 4 times what you can actually buy it for ... if they look.

jeff H.

Re: Slot machine identity

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:53 am
by Anglobritish
The value of your machine would only be worth what Jeff is quoting if you were to sell it to a very new and innocent collector, while original Sega models do not command very high prices, your machine is worth even less, firstly, what mechanism as it got, I would think there may not be an escalator in the machine, so I would value it for spare parts value only at around $300.00 in the recent auction in the U.K just a week ago, original Sega models were bringing between $460.00 and $600.00 at the same auction Mills High Tops were only selling for around $900.00. A very rare Keeney Pony Derby only brought $700.00
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Re: Slot machine identity

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:16 am
by JHSS-1944
Freddy's comments may be very true for the Collector !! But the new owner may not collect anything at all , just wants it ,since it will look cool in his "game room", & the novelty of showing it off to all his (or her ) friends. or a person who can't shell out big bucks on a very desirable machine.

your correct ,that recent sales / auctions in the UK & US show prices much lower than we think those items should sell for. but for a non collector, it's just a neat old slot machine to play at home.... till the novelty of that wears off.
if priced reasonable (the buyers perspective ), great X-MAS gift for some one in their family.

The vast majority of people on the planet , Don't collect anything. But we do.
jeff H.