Witch Hunt???

[ran250]

Dave, I placed a question in the e-bay forum and I think people might be shy to answer. Perhaps if you could post a reply I might get more feedback from others. I call this witch hunt because I have been dealing with slot machines on e-bay for more than 7 years. Sorry but living in Florida I really have no other means to sell them. When I first got into selling slot machines on ebay I was always asked questions like how does it work, condition, payouts, etc.. I have recently sold a few machines and now I am bombarded with questions about authenticity. Could it be that while trying to educate people about reproduction machines they have gotten to the point where they assume everything is a fake. I realize this can be said of any type of collectible. My beef is that this machine that I have sold I will most likely get a negative feedback. The castings are probably the best condition castings that I have ever seen with their original paint. Is it worth it for people to destroy or part out a machine that they feel is a reproduction? I have always tried to be educated in this hobby because I truly enjoy the coin op machines.

Thanks,
Randy

[watlingboy]

Randy,

You described the machine acurately. The wood case is a repro. The rest of the machine is original. It has none of the normal pit falls which are on the repros, i.e. original complete mechanism-not a stripped down put together mech, original back door, drill proof side plates and escalator looks good. Plus he got a 25 cent machine for I think $960, that was a great buy. If you end up taking the machine back, make him pay shipping both ways. I would be curious as to what is his criteria for saying it is not original. Also I am not aware of anyone making Golden Falls repros. Most are Golden Nuggets or other Mills models and if they were made they didn't put complete Mills mechs or original back doors on them. You described it accurately and did nothing wrong and owe the buyer nothing.

Watlingboy

[kabslots]

Hallo Randy,

I am aware that I am living in Europe and English is not mine major language, but I wanted to give mine response about this forum. I was reading your question in the forum and although I am aware off this delicate situation, I can confirm Watlingboys statement. Your description is accurate more than common descriptions about Slots. I am aware that anyone wants to find the golden find for almost nothing. But you are right about the wooden case that’s looked definitely a repro. The rest of the machine looked from the pictures original. Refund is always difficult, You are not responsible for regrets, but I can live whit Watlingboys solution about the cost of Shipping. I have also one time received a slot with some repro parts. Those part where not mentioned en where not showed on the pictures. You have mentioned everything correctly and if I was in the “Jury” the statement was “not guilty”.

Good Luck Karel kabslots.

[Dave]

Randy:

I answered your post in the eBay area before I saw that you posted the same question here.

As you will see, my answers pretty much go along with what others have said.

Dave

[Dave]

Randy,

.... Also I am not aware of anyone making Golden Falls repros. Most are Golden Nuggets or other Mills models and if they were made they didn't put complete Mills mechs or original back doors on them. ...

Watlingboy, just an FYI here. I have seen fake Golden Falls machines out there. None with a handload JP though.

A Golden Falls machines is essentially a Black Cherry which is basically a Golden Nugget. The only difference is the hardware that is bolted on the front.

Dave

[Dave]

Randy:

You might tell your buyer to ask a question on this forum. If he looks at the posts in the eBay area he will find that most of us don't like the fakes but the people who have responded to your post think the machine was described reasonably.

Dave