As a seller of a slot machine on ebay I've run into a problem. I need you guys to give me a second opinion. The item number of the listing is 250120526476. Please read my description and your opinion is needed to see if I was misleading in any way. The buyer claims that the case and casting are reproductions. The lower casting is stamped "MLB-7528", and this can be seen in one of the listing pictures. I offered to refund his money if he wanted to send the machine back. He prefers to argue the matter that the castings are not Mills and the cabinet is a reproduction. I know the cabinet is not true Mills and I stated this. It seems he wants to keep the machine but get some of his money back. I know how this forum is so much against reproductions and frankly, so am I. Thank you in advance for your help. I will take the good with the bad.
Randy
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Help Please, Need Second Opinion
by ran250 » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:02 am
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by Dave » Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:45 pm
Randy:
In my opinon, the case is not original Mills and the machine is missing the handle pump (which you disclosed). You stated you thought the case was NOS or replaced. I don't think it is Mills NOS. I bet the case was in such bad shape that someone put on a new one at some point in time.
However, I think the castings are legitimate as well as the mechanism.
I don't think they repro'd the handload jackpot castings.
In addition, the award card looks original. The back door is also original.
The mechanism has the check detection hardware on it and so does the escalator. Check detection hardware is almost always missing on the fakes.
In addition, the machine also has the steel sides on the inside of the case. Something the clowns making the fakes don't bother doing.
It seems to me that you are being reasonable and offering to give the guy his money back if he returns the machine. My only question would be who eats the shipping fees?
The machine sold for under $1,000 which is pretty cheap for a quarter machine.
Bottom line is that I think the machine was described accurately and whoever bought it got it at a reasonable price.
If anyone else in the forum has thoughts on this feel free to chime in.
Dave
In my opinon, the case is not original Mills and the machine is missing the handle pump (which you disclosed). You stated you thought the case was NOS or replaced. I don't think it is Mills NOS. I bet the case was in such bad shape that someone put on a new one at some point in time.
However, I think the castings are legitimate as well as the mechanism.
I don't think they repro'd the handload jackpot castings.
In addition, the award card looks original. The back door is also original.
The mechanism has the check detection hardware on it and so does the escalator. Check detection hardware is almost always missing on the fakes.
In addition, the machine also has the steel sides on the inside of the case. Something the clowns making the fakes don't bother doing.
It seems to me that you are being reasonable and offering to give the guy his money back if he returns the machine. My only question would be who eats the shipping fees?
The machine sold for under $1,000 which is pretty cheap for a quarter machine.
Bottom line is that I think the machine was described accurately and whoever bought it got it at a reasonable price.
If anyone else in the forum has thoughts on this feel free to chime in.
Dave
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