Desperately need information on this IGT dice machine

[Jerry Fluegel]

PLEASE HELP!
Does anyone out there know anything about this IGT dice machine? I'm looking for another working machine that might be for sale or a parts machine. Schematics would also be a great help.

[Jackpot]

Hi Jerry,

You say I.G.T. ? Is that on the machine somewhere? If so, I think that is wrong and It would be interesting to know why you think it might be made by I.G.T., Just wondering if there is a tag on it or something? I had a couple of these about 10-20 years ago. Mine were the none payout models, they made both payout and credit models and were the same thing, only one didn't have a hopper. Called: "Million Dice" and made or distributed by Bonanza Enterprises, a board inside had Romam Ind implanted on it so I am not sure if Bonanza or Roman manufactured them.
I don't feel shy about saying that I believe I have the only owners manual for one of these. My two machines were not working, and I had no paper on them, so I sold them because I couldn't fix them without some paper information on these, and after looking a few years for paper, I gave up. Years later, buying and collecting manuals as I do, I ran across an owners manual which includes the schematics and bought it flat out on the spot. Why, maybe because I felt that I would run into you someday and might be able to help. My email address is jackpot7@ix.netcom.com if you want to talk about it. I'll try to attach some photo's here, my manual reads non payout but it has hopper information in it, I think it's a "one size fit's all" kind of thing.
Cheers
Rodger Knutson[/img]

[Jackpot]

Jerry and I have been discussing these dice machines, thought someone might be interested in all this so I am putting some of it here:

Hi Jerry,
WOW, strange this is. I tried to search for your model and found nothing under I.G.T. which was started by Redd in 1980, maybe he bought these or were left over from his Sircoma company? My manual shows them being manufactured by Bonanza in Yekohoma Japan. The original manual I have is in English and printed on very thin paper, but the schematics are in English and some Japanese. HOWEVER, this manual is for the model MIC-R1 like yours, so your tag has the correct model number for this machine, so I guess it is an I.G.T also, but I don't think they manufactured it, I do think they must of imported it maybe? But that would be even stranger given Nevada's gaming laws, you can't deny the facts as you look at your tag. Very strange also how few ever show up if I.G.T was involved? I'll have to take this manual up to a copy place and see what they can do, It's really fragile and on really light almost see through paper, just like the manual was made in Japan and I sure it was. But I'll see if I can get you a copy so maybe you can get your machine working again. I seen one of these on ebay on Feb.-21-07 the auction ended, forgot to go back and check what it sold for. Anyway it subject line was: 25 Cents EM Dice Slot Mfg by Roman Ind, with a starting bid of 750.00. Have you ever seen Reeds Dice, the worlds Largest Dice Game? I owned one at one time and it is still in town here, I bought it right after it came out of the Bucket Of Blood Saloon in Virginia City where it sat from the day it was new, (I have the manual for that one to), photo enclosed if I can find it. It looks to be along the same lines, so who copied who?? Or what the heck is going on here anyway? We should try to post this on Dave's site so the rest of the world can follow along if they like and maybe get some answers.
Rodger Knutson

[Jerry Fluegel]

Hi Roger,
Thanks, for all of your input on my boat anchor IGT Double Up dice machine.
You mentioned that your manual is for the Model MIC-R1, but mine is MIC-R2. The machine that you had was very similar to mine, so maybe the manual would pretty much be the same. I hope so. But even with the manual, if my program chip/s are bad, my only hope would be that there is someone out there that could make a copy/s for me. Otherwise, Even with the manual, I won't be able to get it going again. From what I have been told.....the blanks for the program chips are not available. I don't know that for a fact yet.
Jerry Fluegel

[Jackpot]

Jerry,

The manual is for a R-3, that is what the cover reads, but I see inside that it also covers the R-1, so you have an R-2, how many models did they make?? Anyway I sure it is most all the same. Are you sure your programs are bad? It did work so I wonder how they could of gone bad if static didn't get to them. Can you read them into a eprom programmer and see if the instructions are still there? I know I had a good program in a machine once, pulled it and put it back in and nothing, I loaded it in my program buffer and it showed nothing, so it was the first program I ruined by static. Is there a battery on your PC board, I think there was, and maybe that is dead.
Rodger

[Jerry Fluegel]

Hi Roger,
That dice game that you had is pretty cool. I never saw anything like it. It looks like it weighs a ton. Ha! I assume that machine was a payout machine being in a casino and all. I wish that my dice machine had a hopper in it. It's just a lot more fun when you can hear the ca-ching!
I know that the memory back-up battery in my machine is good. The program chips are what I'm not sure about. My chip burner took a dump so I have no way to check them right now.
I had the machine over at my friend's house for quite a while for him to try to get it going. He's a pretty sharp guy when it comes to repairing all the newer pinball machines, but without the schematics, he wasn't able to get it working. When I got it back, it was and still is, not completely assembled. He has so many jobs going at once, that it never got totally reassembled. When I get some time, I have to try to remember where things go and get it back in one piece, ha!