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Proper Verbage for Slots?

Postby RameGoom » Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:02 pm

Just curious. Inquiring minds want to know:

VendER or VendOR?

NickEL or NickLE?

And pronunciation:

Caille=

Kay-Lee
Kai-Lee
Kai-ill
or Kay-ill...?
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Re: Proper Verbage for Slots?

Postby marsonion » Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:51 pm

"Kale."

An old sign I once saw advertising their outboard motors indicated the same pronunciation. However, residents of Detroit city will point to the "Kay-lee" building downtown, and I think that's the most popular way to say it, regardless. To make matters more confusing still, the family name is a French word which translates as "partridge" or "quail" and is pronounced sort of like "KY-uh," with the "uh" part barely audible, if at all.
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Re: Proper Verbage for Slots?

Postby watlingboy » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:04 pm

A friend of mine talked to Art Caille many years ago and asked him that question and he said that in France it is pronounced Kale but the Americanized pronunciation is Kay' Lee. Art Caille pronounced it Kay' Lee.

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Re: Proper Verbage for Slots?

Postby marsonion » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:22 pm

You can listen to the French pronunciation of Caille here:

http://www.forvo.com/search/caille/

Click on the arrow button next to the word.

Here's how the outboard motors division of the company told people to say it: "CAIL." Sounds like "kale" to me.
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Re: Proper Verbage for Slots?

Postby RameGoom » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:43 pm

OK, I'll go with CALE. Now, I won't pause whenever I see a post with the Caille name in it.

Now for the nickle, or nickel. I think nickel is the element, but it seems it also names the coin. However I see it both ways.

Sort of like whisky and whiskey.
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Re: Proper Verbage for Slots?

Postby sam2002 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:22 pm

nichell is what my dad used to call a 5 cent piece
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Re: Proper Verbage for Slots?

Postby SLOT DYNASTY » Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:25 am

RameGoom wrote:Just curious. Inquiring minds want to know:

VendER or VendOR?

NickEL or NickLE?

And pronunciation:

Caille=

Kay-Lee
Kai-Lee
Kai-ill
or Kay-ill...?


As far as the word spelling of VENDER v VENDOR is concerned, both ways are correct in the coin machine hobby.
Not sure when the use of 'OR' came into play with other venues, but 'ER' has always been the norm. If you are
talking about a side mounted mint dispenser on a Slot, it is always spelled VENDER. Maybe one or more of the
Slot mfrs. used the 'OR' version in advertising at one time, but I am not aware of it. But, when it comes to the
Trade Stimulators, both spellings were used by multiple mfrs. Two well-known differences can be seen in the
Chicago Mint Co. "PURITAN CONFECTION VENDER", and the Lion Mfg. Co. "PURITAN BABY VENDOR".

Both spellings of NICKEL v NICKLE are acceptable. It seems that the 'LE' version was used more in the 1900's
through the 1930's. Since I was in school, it was always spelled with the 'EL'. I have even found myself using
both versions, as in NICKEL for a 5c piece, and NICKLE for the alloy. Another word just came to mind. BELL &
BELLE. There are numerous others, that I'm sure will bore us all.
Just as mentioned earlier, about WHISKEY & WHISKY. Who cares, as long as my glass is full! :D

Now for Caille: Both pronunciations are correct. I have asked Art Caille more than once about this, over the
years. The last time I brought it up to him, was at Marsh Fey's "Liberty Belle Auction". (Yes, Belle)! In July '06.
Art will answer to both, but the 'KALE' pronunciation is French origin, and the 'KAYLEE', is the Americanized.
He said that he liked the 'KAYLEE' version best. The one very special thing, that I did at this auction, was to
have all three of the 'Stars' autograph my Auction Catalog. The outside back cover had 3 machines pictured.
The Caille "Roulette", which I had Marsh Fey sign under. A Caille Double, which I had Art Caille sign under. A
Mills Double, which I had Tony Mills, sign under. The funniest thing that happened during the signings, was
with Art. He was the second to sign, and he almost signed under the Mills machine, before I stopped Him, and
jokingly said, "what's the matter, don't you know your own machines"? To this day, I have not yet framed it.
Just another in my long list of to-do's. #-o
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Re: Proper Verbage for Slots?

Postby flipper77 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:00 am

Just cleaning up a Watling FOK and the reel strips answer your spelling question at least per Watling and in 1927. Some would say ho hum but I always get a thrill out of digging into a latest discovery and finding interesting stuff like this. Really neat Watling with future pay and mint vender all there. There are still a few collectors out there who appreciate the history of these beautiful machines!

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Re: Proper Verbage for Slots?

Postby Anglobritish » Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:46 am

The Story of The Caille Organisation 1932-1.jpg
The Story of The Caille Organisation 1932-2.jpg
Caille Outboard Motor 5 speed runabout.jpg
A visit to  The Caille Organisation 1935-1.jpg
A visit to  The Caille Organisation 1935-2.jpg
A visit to  The Caille Organisation 1935-3.jpg
Caille Outboard Motor 5 speed runabout.jpg
Hi Guy's,
This is all very interesting, but something I cannot help in any way, I never went to school at all, because of my background that being of the traveling showmen (Carny in the States) in England.

In fact the one thing I really wish, is that Dave's excellent site had a spell check facility.

Back to Caille, I can contribute a picture of a machine made in 1905 under license from Caille and spelt the same way as we know it, also find attached for the Caille buff's, two articles on a visit to the Caille factories in 1932 and 1935, plus a picture of their outboard motor. Caille was sold to Pat Buckley in the 1940's.

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