Watling Blueseal two pull slot?

[altort]

I know there are some less know slots with very little if any information to be had, and I just came across one that falls in to that category, it is a Watling Blueseal with a two play feature for 5¢, I have the Mills 2 pull Sky Scraper, I am familiar with the Roll-A-Top 5¢/25¢, but I have not found any thing on the Blueseal with the 2 pull feature.

I have talked with several collectors and called several others, spent many hours on line but no information on this slot, one person had suggested that it may be an operator add on, but to me it looks like all the parts are stamped and tooled professionally by a manufacturer, not likely that an operator would have converted it.

There are no Watling markings on the cabinet or castings but a Mills 2PLAYS FOR 5¢ sign stuck on the front casting that clearly looks out of place.

Now I am turning to the experts on this forum to shed some light on this, any information, advertising, production run, prototype or maybe some one has one in their collection would be great to find out.

P/S I was told that Watling did make a Roll-A-Top with the 2 pull feature but did not find any information on that slot either maybe they meant the Blueseal instead.

Thanks

[gsx11r]

Hi Altort
Very nice !! Very very nice !
You can find more info in the "Loose change " 97 summer !!
But on a Rol a Top two pull !!
Never seen in blue seal also !!
Stephane

[SLOT DYNASTY]

There is only one person that I know of, that should know all about this 'two-pull' "Blue Seal", and that
would be none other than our Forums (watlingboy), whom should have chimed-in before me. The hobby
also had one other Watling expert, by the name of Stan Wilker, who sadly passed several years ago.

[watlingboy]

The 2 pulls for a nickel Blue Seal were found and known long before the 2 pulls for a quarter Rol-A-Top were discovered. I saw these Blue Seals early after California legalized ownership of antique slots but no one thought much of them. There is a picture of one that appeared in the 1981 Wallace/Homestead price guide. I'm amazed that when someone sees something they haven't seen before, the first thing they say is prototype. Altort is correct these were production machines, please see the ad below. You could get the 2 pulls in 1 cent to 25 cent. The Rube Goldberg type mechanism for the 2 pulls is a modified version of the same mechanism that is found on some Blue Seals which allow coins to go into the jackpot. The same mechanism as on the 2 pulls Blue Seal also is used on the 2 pulls Rol-A-Top. Probably a bad thing to say that as someone will now try to modify and make one now. It is thought that the reason for the 2 pulls was entice players during the depression era because these are early 30's machines but that doesn't explain the 2 pulls Rol-A-Top. I had a 2 pulls for a nickel Skyscraper in the early days of collecting and no one wanted, finally ended up selling it for $900. This is certainly not the case for the 2 pulls for a quarter Rol-A-Top which is highly sought after. To my knowledge, 3 are known to exist.

Watlingboy

[altort]

Thank you Stephan for the pdf on the Rol-A-Top two pull very interesting article, the brake down of the parts used to accomplish the 2 pull was very use full, mostly the same except the "coin sensing pin hook" that is considerably different.

Thank you Watlingboy for the information and the advertisement on the 2 pull Blueseal, information like this is very use full, I take they must have offered this feature for several years and on the vender front as well since the one I posted has a different goose neck style and is a vender front as well, now was there any thing on the slot that made the player aware of the feature like on the award card, a plaque? The 2 pull Rol-A-Top had a plaque on the front casting stating that the machine gave 2 pulls for 25¢ this slot has a plaque that looks just like the Mills 2 pull plaque I dont think that it's correct but it's that same style as on the Rol-A-Top.

[watlingboy]

Yes, the 2 Pulls for 5 Cents plaque is very similar if not the same as used by Mills. But from the picture below, you can see yours is correct. The same casting was used on the Rol-A-Top. In 1981, the Wallace/Homestead price guide listed the difference in price between the 2 pulls and the regular 5 cent play as $300, I don't think that's the price today.

Watlingboy

[altort]

Well that sure is good news, at first I just thought that it was a fantasy creation like one of the ones from Vegas, I am glad that I was curious enough to look further in to it.
Thanks again for the information.