Groetchen 'Ball Gum trade stimulator

[integ194]

Hi. This trade stimulator is currently listed on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-CENT-BALL-GUM ... 2ee2388cc0
I would really appreciate if someone is able to precisely identify this machine pls and clarify whether that is a jackpot facility at the lower front right. Any other comments would also be appreciated. Thks & rgds Wayne

[tg2722]

Dear Wayne
If you have Richard Bueschel book vintage trade stimulators and counter games, on page 134 my machine is a J M SANDERS BABY JACK POT VENDER as showing. CHICAGO MINT also made a jack pot PURITAN CONFECTION VENNDER, same page. If you look on the right side of the ebay machine you will see a key openning to release the jack pot . I DO NOT THINK THIS IS A GROETCHEN. GROCTCHEN BALL GUM MACHINES THAT I KNOW OF DO NOT HAVE A JACK POT.BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT ANOTHER COMPANY DID NOT MAKE THAT MACHINE & PUT THE WORD BALL GUM ON TOP.THE INTERNATIONAL ARCADE MUSEUM,YOU WILL SEE ALL OF THE MACHINES THAT GROCTCHEN MADE THEY SHOW BALL GUM MACHINE WITH NO JACK POT.SO I WOULD THINK THERE IS ANOTHER COMPANY OUT THERTE THAT MADE THIS MACHINE, IF YOU FIND THE MAKER OF THIS MACHINE THAT IS ON E BAY PLEASE LET ME KNOW THANK YOU

[integ194]

Thanks Tom for your support & expert opinion once again. I do not have that edition of Richard Bueschel text I have the 'Coin Machines' edition. I need to acquire that other edition. I had noted that Groetchen did not appear to produce a jackpot machine from a price guide so your confirmation is great. I need also to follow up your leads. Thanks again & best rgds Wayne

[SLOT DYNASTY]

Wayne:
Stay away from this machine! I remember the Vegas Butcher listing this awhile back, and this current seller has
bought several machines from him, and relists them. The reason you are thinking this may be a Groetchen model,
is because the Butcher replaced the 'Ball Gum' top casting, which is only found on Groetchen machines. Not sure
why the clown would have done that, but one never knows what he is thinking! That top casting may look like it
belongs there, but it doesn't fit perfectly, and if this machine had the original cast door, it would not lock properly.
The machine is also missing the cast gumball exit cup.
Most all of these jackpot version "Puritan Baby Vendor" models were produced by Buckley. Some had their name in
the top casting, or the back door, but most didn't. The "Baby Vendors" were highly copied by other mfrs., but not
the jackpot model.
Shown below, is an original, with the correct top casting.

Buckley 'Puritan Baby Vendor - JP' (orig)1.jpg (26.67 KiB) Viewed 4849 times

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Thks so much Slot Dynasty for your detailed warning & info. In particular you have put into clear context the missing back door & importantly the machine history. Best rgds Wayne