Dice game question

[Hard8]

Someone told me about a machine he used to play late 70s early 80s and I am trying to find it:

it was a dice game,
played with quarters
He thinks it was some type of Hi-Lo game
you could double or nothing up to 16 quarters
he said there was a bubble on it like those gum machines

I've searched here for dice, but did not see any machines from that time period
I'm not sure what to put for a google search, if I put vintage i get those really old ones from the 20s (those are beautiful, wish they weren't 15 grand)

Do you guys have any idea what that machine was called? OR do you know of sites like this one but about more recent (20-40 year old) machines?

BTW it was pretty fun looking through all the stuff here, I love those old mechanical devices

Thanks for you time

[mechanic]

Possibly a Bally reliance or Bally lucky 7 among others

[Dave]

Definitely not a Reliance.

In 1983 I was going to graduate school at USC. On weekend we would go to Vegas. I was a card counter and one of the casinos I played BJ at was a dumpy little place on the strip called Nob Hill. It was right next to Harrahs (Holiday casino at the time).

Anyway, they had a machine which bounced the dice and somehow read them. I bet it was the same machine as your friend was talking about.

It was a pretty cool machine. Not sure how it worked. I think it had some kind of sensor that read the dots on the dice.

I don't know who made it. That was before I was into buying slots (I didn't buy my first machine until 1984).

I would love to own one. I bet most if not all of them are in the dump or if they are in someone's garage they are not working because they were electronic and anything that old and electronic is probably not working.

Dave

[SLOT DYNASTY]

Dave:
I believe the machine you are referring to, was made by Roman Industries, and was called "Craps" or "Crap Shooter",
although the name was not on the glass, or anywhere. I don't have the mfr. dates handy at this time. The first time
I ever seen one of those machines, was sometime in the early 1980's, and was amazed at the way it operated, and
just had to have one. But, of coarse they were brand new, and not yet available. Not to mention, they would have
been illegal in Calif. The only two Casinos that I had ever seen them at, were in Las Vegas. There were two of them
downtown, at the "El Cortez" on Fremont St., and four or five at the "Thunderbird". My friend and I played them at
both locations, but it was at the Thunderbird, that we were tapped on the shoulder after playing, and politely asked
to leave, as I was standing in front of one of the machines, with a pen and tablet, drawing the layout of the machine,
button names & location, etc. Even though we could not see the inside workings, we had an idea of how it worked,
and were going to try and scratch-build a couple of our own. Needless to say, we never tackled the project. But as
fate would have it, about two years later, a fellow that I knew in Reno, that bought-up used machines from many of
the casinos, had acquired three of them. He kept one for himself, and sold the other two to my friend and I. They
didn't even last a year on location, because of constant problems. Neither one worked properly, but we later found
someone to work on them. The way they operated was: There was a large glass-fronted compartment, that had two
dice, approx. 1-1/4" square, that were tossed to the rear, and a bar would then slide them to the front glass, where
two photo-cells would read the opposite sides from below, for the payout. We both had tons of fun with these, for
several years, then one day, mine stopped working. The entire dice compartment, slides out of the case, as a single
unit, so I thought that we would swap the two, to see if mine would work in his case, and vice-versa. But that was
never attempted, because we noticed that the transformers, and circuit boards, on both the carriage, and in the case,
had different capacitors and resistors, etc., as well as in different locations, that we didn't want to fry either unit, so
mine has been parked behind tons of other stuff for several years now. I am not sure if my friends machine still works,
as we haven't talked about them for quite some time. Perhaps some day, I will dig it out, and let someone else take
the challenge of getting it to work.
Bill

[Hard8]

Thanks guys, I'll check those leads