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Re: 11 Antique Slots For Sale

Postby oldslotman » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:12 am

Is the red Mills Futurity for sale here the same as the one for sale in this ad ? Are they the same machine?http://www.gameroomantiques.com/AntiqueSlots.htmd?
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Re: 11 Antique Slots For Sale

Postby Dave » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:56 am

oldslotman wrote:Is the red Mills Futurity for sale here the same as the one for sale in this ad ? Are they the same machine http://www.gameroomantiques.com/AntiqueSlots.htm


Yes, that is the same machine.

FYI, the Rol-A-Tor has been sold.
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Re: 11 Antique Slots For Sale

Postby oldslotman » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:45 pm

Would red have been the original color?
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Re: 11 Antique Slots For Sale

Postby Dave » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:02 pm

terick2104 wrote:It is interesting that when you are selling, your prices are right up there. When you inquired about a 5c Treasury with gold award that I was asking $4000.00 for, you said it was way overpriced and that I paid to much for it.


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I honestly don't recall talking to you on the phone or via email about your Treasury. I usually get 5 to 10 machines offered to me every week and there is no way I can remember every conversation or every email. In general when the asking price is more than I want to pay I simply say "Sorry, that is more than I am willing to pay".

Telling people that they paid way too much for it is not how I roll. Frankly, I don't really care what they paid because that is totally irrelevant. Just like when I buy a stock on the stock market, what the person paid for it doesn't matter.

The exception to this would be if they just purchased the machine (typically at auction) and are trying to flip it and make a profit or if they bought one of the reproduction machines. I do get many emails from people who bought a fake Golden Nugget in Vegas years ago and paid over $3,000 for it.

If I did say anything that offended you then I apologize. :oops:

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Re: 11 Antique Slots For Sale

Postby Dave » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:05 pm

oldslotman wrote:Would red have been the original color?


The red machine has been repainted. I think the only original color is the orange color. I have seen several futurities painted different colors. I suppose some people do not like the original color and decide to paint it a different color.

Since red is not the original color the red machine's price was discounted.

Frankly, I think the red is more attractive than the orange but it is not how they came out of the factory.

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Re: 11 Antique Slots For Sale

Postby oldslotman » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:41 am

Dave wrote:
oldslotman wrote:Would red have been the original color?


The red machine has been repainted. I think the only original color is the orange color. I have seen several futurities painted different colors. I suppose some people do not like the original color and decide to paint it a different color.

Since red is not the original color the red machine's price was discounted.

Frankly, I think the red is more attractive than the orange but it is not how they came out of the factory.

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Are Futurity's a 2/4 or 3/5 pay?
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Re: 11 Antique Slots For Sale

Postby Dave » Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:29 pm

All futurities are 3/5 pay.

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Re: 11 Antique Slots For Sale

Postby leospanner » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:04 am

Hello everyone

Can someone help me and explain the (2/4 or 3/5) pay. As a beginner I am still trying to learn. Thanks for all the help this site has give me.
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Re: 11 Antique Slots For Sale

Postby oldslotman » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:08 am

leospanner wrote:Hello everyone

Can someone help me and explain the (2/4 or 3/5) pay. As a beginner I am still trying to learn. Thanks for all the help this site has give me.

2/4 refers to payout on two cherries. This payout was used until the early 1930's when they switched to 3/5 payout. I believe the 3/5 started with the Castle front, and later on the War Eagles. 2/4 is as follows: 2 coins for two cherries and 4 coins for two cherries plus a bell or lemon on the third reel. 3/5 is as follows; 3 coins for two cherries and 5 coins for two cherries plus a bell or lemon on the third reel. Later on, I believe after WWII or shortly before the war, they switched to a 2/5 payout which was 2 coins for one cherry and 5 coins for two cherries. Hope this helps. Someone can correct if I'm wrong but I think the 2/4 payout was just on 10 stop machines, which means the reels only stopped on every other symbol.
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Re: 11 Antique Slots For Sale

Postby nvmos2 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:29 am

leospanner:

The Mills Mystery Bell, most commonly known as the Castle Front:
"The machine that forever changed slot machine play. Upping the payout schedule of the lowest plays from 2-4 to 3-5 added a lot of excitement and,
at first, mystery as players were accustomed to the the smaller pays of the past. They thought the new MYSTERY machine was broken,
and played it all the more. The 3-5 "Mystery Payout" soon became an industry standard."
.....R. Bueschel in "Lemons, Cherries and Bell Fruit Gum" page 99.
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