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Need some help with new problem

Postby Denny » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:10 am

I have a jennings silent peacock machine that's been in my possession for about 10 years. The coin accepter will not take coins just send them down the coin return and pull lever works without having to put a coin in the machine. Then all of a sudden one day it accepted the coins and pull lever locked up until a coin was dropped in. Then it went back to the way it was before. Also at the bottom next to where the coin box goes there is what looks to be a hydraulic part with arm that connects to another part that is used when you pull on the pull lever broke off. Is this part important to have fixed? Any help would sure be appreciated. Thank you!

New problem payout tube won't payout. Read my last reply on this thread.


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Re: Need some help

Postby oldslotman » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:28 am

Denny wrote:I have a jennings silent peacock machine that's been in my possession for about 10 years. The coin accepter will not take coins just send them down the coin return and pull lever works without having to put a coin in the machine. Then all of a sudden one day it accepted the coins and pull lever locked up until a coin was dropped in. Then it went back to the way it was before. Also at the bottom next to where the coin box goes there is what looks to be a hydraulic part with arm that connects to another part that is used when you pull on the pull lever broke off. Is this part important to have fixed? Any help would sure be appreciated. Thank you!

It sounds like the coin ejector on the escalator is stuck and maybe gummed up. The part that is broke off is part of the damping system that slows down the return of the pull arm. Machine will work without it but the handle will snap back up fairly fast. You can most likely have that part welded.
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Re: Need some help

Postby Denny » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:14 pm

Thanks, Oldslotman

I have no experience so my next question is, is this a easy fix with the escalator being stuck or gummed or should I take it in to a professional?
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Re: Need some help

Postby oldslotman » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:01 pm

Denny wrote:Thanks, Oldslotman

I have no experience so my next question is, is this a easy fix with the escalator being stuck or gummed or should I take it in to a professional?

It most likely an easy fix, but if you are not familiar with a Jennings escalator you should most likely have someone who knows them fix it.
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Re: Need some help

Postby TheFatman » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:55 pm

Take a look at the mech and determine which parts move. Try to move them by hand, if they move easily go onto the next. If you find a moving part that is sticky or sluggish, add a few drops of mineral spirits to it. That will help dissolve any grease that is stiffened up. Work those part loose. You will need to add a lubricant to it when you have it moving. I use petroleum jelly a lot because it doesn't get hard like lithium grease does over the year of non usage, but I use Lithium Grease as well. That is what i do to get things moving again.
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Re: Need some help with new problem

Postby Denny » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:42 pm

Thanks guys I found the problem coins are getting stuck on top of the payout tube when they should be going into the cash box tube. The arm on top of payout tube looks like it should pull back then foward pushing coin into cash box tube but it isn't pulling back. I just use a wooden stick and push coins down cash box tube.

Now I have a new problem machine won't payout. Payout tube looks full but no coins fall through. I think there's some broken springs somewhere. I've tried manually setting it off with a couple of cherries and nothing then I tried setting off a jackpot by lining up 3 bars. The 3 bars didn't even stay on the Pay line they just moved up or down from pay line on their own. No jackpot. Right now I just want to get this machine running before I do anything else to it. Also I updated my profile to include my location which is California.

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Re: Need some help with new problem

Postby marsonion » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:58 pm

Denny wrote:Now I have a new problem machine won't payout. Payout tube looks full but no coins fall through. I think there's some broken springs somewhere. I've tried manually setting it off with a couple of cherries and nothing then I tried setting off a jackpot by lining up 3 bars. The 3 bars didn't even stay on the Pay line they just moved up or down from pay line on their own. No jackpot. Right now I just want to get this machine running before I do anything else to it. Also I updated my profile to include my location which in California.

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I'd suggest you check that all your springs to the vertical fingers, horizontal fingers and coin slides are in place, and that none of those sprung levers and parts are sticking or jammed. If all that is functioning but you're still not getting any payouts, it's possible you've got sideways nickels stuck in the coin slides or in the lower portion of the coin tube where you can't see them, forming a "clog." Pull the coin tube and check on that. Have some really long needlenosed pliers handy to fetch out any sideways coins.

The probable reason you lined up bars and they moved off the payline is because you have a ten-stop mechanism. Try this: count off every other symbol from the ones on the pay line, and flag only those bars (with pieces of post-it notes or whatever) as active-- the rest are fake! Then line up only the "real"-reel-symbols to check your payouts. [There is also a remote possibility that one or another of your bars are "bugged" with a percentage clip, so the reel stops skip right past them-- if you find that to be the case, send pictures! :D PS: Check out the bug crowning the mess in the last picture posted on this rusting wreck: eBay item number: 231212500526 ]
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Re: Need some help with new problem

Postby Denny » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:11 pm

marsonion wrote:
Denny wrote:Now I have a new problem machine won't payout. Payout tube looks full but no coins fall through. I think there's some broken springs somewhere. I've tried manually setting it off with a couple of cherries and nothing then I tried setting off a jackpot by lining up 3 bars. The 3 bars didn't even stay on the Pay line they just moved up or down from pay line on their own. No jackpot. Right now I just want to get this machine running before I do anything else to it. Also I updated my profile to include my location which in California.

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I'd suggest you check that all your springs to the vertical fingers, horizontal fingers and coin slides are in place, and that none of those sprung levers and parts are sticking or jammed. If all that is functioning but you're still not getting any payouts, it's possible you've got sideways nickels stuck in the coin slides or in the lower portion of the coin tube where you can't see them, forming a "clog." Pull the coin tube and check on that. Have some really long needlenosed pliers handy to fetch out any sideways coins.

The probable reason you lined up bars and they moved off the payline is because you have a ten-stop mechanism. Try this: count off every other symbol from the ones on the pay line, and flag only those bars (with pieces of post-it notes or whatever) as active-- the rest are fake! Then line up only the "real"-reel-symbols to check your payouts. [There is also a remote possibility that one or another of your bars are "bugged" with a percentage clip, so the reel stops skip right past them-- if you find that to be the case, send pictures! :D PS: Check out the bug crowning the mess in the last picture posted on this rusting wreck: eBay item number: 231212500526 ]


Thanks Marsonion for the info.

I'll work on it in a few days.
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Re: Need some help with new problem

Postby Denny » Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:21 pm

Will I got the machine to kick out a jackpot manually by doing what Marsonion said, by flaging the bars on the payline. At first I didn't understand what Marsonion meant but after 20 minutes I figured it out. Big thanks to you Marsonion! After the coins were out of jackpot #1, I put in another coin so that the reserve Jp would fall into jackpot #1 but i noticed it was kind of hard to pull the pull lever down. Machine has never paid out a JP while playing ever since i had it. Machine still doesn't payout when lining up fruits and I'm not going to mess around with pulling the coin tube out there's just too many moving parts for me to remember. Some springs dont look to good. Well at least I know the jackpot mechanism still works!
Still looking for someone in California who can help! Anybody?

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Re: Need some help with new problem

Postby marsonion » Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:51 pm

Yes, I can appreciate that you've got some hardware to deal with and that pulling the coin tube would be a chore, though coin tubes are usually only held in place with one or two screws. However, you might be able to see if there are coins askew in the slides by simply forcing a jackpot (now that you've got that technique down) and tipping the mech backwards a ways so you can get a peek up the underside and into the "drop-hole," you know, where the slides line up to shuttle the coins out. Having a flashlight helps. You may find that the slides haven't moved into position at all to drop the coins, because they're stuck. Or, you might find sideways coins stuck in the slides... or, If you've got a full coin tube but nothing at all getting into- or out of the slides, then you probably do have a clog up in the coin tube.

Naturally, there are other possible explanations for your problems that others could probably help you with here, but stuck coins seem to me to be the most likely causes since your springs and levers look OK to me, at least so far as I can tell from your pictures.

California is a huge state. What city are you in, or near?


Denny wrote:Will I got the machine to kick out a jackpot manually by doing what Marsonion said, by flaging the bars on the payline. At first I didn't understand what Marsonion meant but after 20 minutes I figured it out. Big thanks to you Marsonion! After the coins were out of jackpot #1, I put in another coin so that jackpot #2 would fall into jackpot #1 but i noticed it was kind of hard to pull the pull lever down. Machine has never paid out a JP while playing ever since i had it. Machine still doesn't payout when lining up fruits and I'm not going to mess around with pulling the coin tube out there's just too many moving parts for me to remember. Some springs dont look to good. Well at least I know the jackpot mechanism still works!

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