Kids

[3cherrygirl]

Good evening kids! I have been sitting here watching all the comments coming from men that you would think a child would have spoke like that. People come on here to talk about there great machines they have. Tell the stories about them from long ago, and what do they get, but only to be ridiculed . I am sure you are proud. Before you even know the whole or true story you are already cutting them apart....WOW!!!! JUST LIKE A KID> HOORAY 4 U
ok now those are my thoughts now you can put me through shredder!Signing off 3cherry girl

[Dave]

What threads are you referring to?

It sounds like you have issues with multiple threads/topics.

Please share which ones.

[3cherrygirl]

IT'S JUST NOT ONE SUBJECT , IT IS ALL OF THEM. ALL YOU DO IS PUT DOWN AND MAKE BIG DEALS OUT OF WHAT PEOPLE HAVE OR WHAT IS REAL OR NOT REAL....IT IS HUMOROUS WATCHING HERE BECAUSE THERE IS A FEW THAT KNOW IT ALL AND HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD TO BE ON HERE COMPLAINING LIKE KIDS ALL DAY AND NIGHT. I MYSELF LOVE TO PLAY THEM, AND LEARN ABOUT THEM. YES THEY ARE BEAUTIES AND INTERESTING ARTS. BE ASSURED PEOPLE DON'T WAN'T TO BE PUT DOWN LIKE KIDS , TO FIND THERE HANDS SLAPPED.

[Dave]

So all the subjects have people putting down other people's machines? Seriously?

I ask for specific examples and you just come back and say "all of them".

Speaking of acting like a kid, didn't anyone tell you that it is not cool to SHOUT when you respond.

[J57T]

I think that the comments and analysis regarding the various machines on any given posting are very thorough; and, while it may be done in a very detailed and critical way, It is an analysis that could and should have been conducted upon purchase rather than upon sale.

Through these forums, I have learned the hard way, who to trust, with what information, and what to do with their information. It has saved my time, money and agony of buying what an owner believes to be genuine, only to find that THEY were misled from the beginning. It is important to know what you are buying so that you can have as much fun with it as possible, rather than feel you got taken by a unknowing seller. Perhaps we as people, are casual and flippant with our opinions.

Generally, the comments are simply knowledgeable opinions intended to help IDENTIFY purebreds from hybrids (and I appreciate that knowledge), rather than direct attacks on an otherwise proud owner wanting to sell a beloved machine.

Enjoy your machines FOR WHAT THEY ARE, and when it comes time to pass them on, don't hesitate to "tell it like it is". Although not for me, I think that some of the artistic liberties are beautiful, but I wouldn't support the demolition of original condition machines simply to make a playable work of art.

Thanks for listening,

John

[3cherrygirl]

Well guys you do and say what you want ,not thinking how other people feel with your comments (not directed just to you Dave) but I don't like games. I did not know that I was shouting. Did not know that it meant that. I just wanted to let you know how it sounded like what you guys sounded like to me. Sorry I pow out gracefully. What ever

[Midcoast Vintage]

Well guys you do and say what you want ,not thinking how other people feel with your comments (not directed just to you Dave) but I don't like games. I did not know that I was shouting. Did not know that it meant that. I just wanted to let you know how it sounded like what you guys sounded like to me. Sorry I pow out gracefully. What ever

we do not just put down machines for the sake of putting them down.
we are concerned about our hobby.
for some it is more than a hobby, it is a business.
regardless of which of those it is, it is an investment... and... a substantial one.
the reason we are so concerned with the reproductions... regardless of how they are labeled / described... is THE FAKES ARE DESTROYING THE INTEGRITY OF THE HOBBY!
we want new collectors to join the hobby.
we want them to be educated.
we are happy and eager to help in any way we can.
a newbie who becomes educated, and, does not get burned on a reproduction machine will more than likely decide to build a collection, and, as time goes by, upgrade the collection in size and quality.
a newbie who does get educated, and, gets burned, may very likely drop out with a sour feeling towards the hobby, ansd possibly bad mouth the hobby.
NOT GOOD FOR ANYONE INVOLVED!
THIS is why we are so hard on fakes and reproduction.
there are more than enough old / original slot machines around that there is ABSOLUTELY no reason for reproductions... especially since they seem to sell for more than an original can be had for.

look at the stupidity of pricing on ebay.
take one machine... say a mills war eagle. they will range in ASKING price of anywhere from $800. to $4500. i have even seen a few for more than that, but regardless, i think you get my point. now, the wishful thinkers that think they are going to get that upper end price are usually offering a gold plated (probably brass plated) reproduction and using descriptive words like re-manufactured, restored using as many original parts as possible (when questioned they will never reply to tell which parts are original and which parts aren't) etc.
granted... these gold plated wonders, as well as the trick paint job high-tops, and the golden nugget and golfer machines look great to the guy who just wants one machine for his game room, or the golf enthusiast, or the couple who went to vegas in the '50's and THINK they remember playing a golden nugget machine, and, that is all fine and dandy... IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY HONESTLY REPRESENTED. BUT THEY AREN''T. PLUS... MANY OF THEM ARE ILLEGAL, AS THEY DO NOT MEET THE AGE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE IN WHICH THEY LIVE.
so, if you want to jump in here, have YOUR say... which to me really has a "tunnel vision" attitude, and put us down for having OUR say... which is to defend what i have written about above, and, in other posts, as many others on this site have done, and, then exit with a snippy "WHATEVER"... that is your perogative, but, i do sincerely hope you return, and, continue to read what we fellow collectors post here and you are able to gather and retain some useful knowledge that will hopefully prevent you from making an expensive mistake on a bogus machine in the future.
KNOWLEDGE AND COMMUNICATION ARE GREAT TOOLS... WHEN THEY ARE USED.

[RameGoom]

I concur with MidcoastVintage. I am a relative newbie and a few months ago, I posted some pictures of a slot, Little Duke, that I bought. I immediately planned to tear into it, sand-blast everything, remove the reel strips, polish the aluminum front, repaint every piece, and put reproduction parts on it. I wanted a cool looking machine that I would have fully restored. Or, destroyed.

I was chastised for wanting to do that by several members here. At first, I thought, nah, I'll do it the way I want - after all, it's my machine.

The experts talked me off the ledge and I came to my senses. Turned out, the machine I have was a pristine example of an 80 year old machine. So, instead of tearing it apart, I simply cleaned it up and kept the original patina. As for future of the machine, I believe I kept its value because of this.

So, while it might feel like I'm getting lambasted at first, but LISTEN to the fellow forum members here....they're pro's at the collector hobby and offer valuable advice. And don't take it too harshly; these folks have been around the block many times, and definitely know their stuff.

[3cherrygirl]

Hi again. I meant to say bow out. Think of it this way I gave you guys something to talk about. Have a great life.