2 issues with my slot machine..Please help

[pb4sc]

Hi,
I have a Black Cherry that I have been working on, but am now at a point where I am stumped, and was wondering if anyone can help point me in the right direction. I have two problems.
First, my reels are spinning, but they all seem to stop at the same time. On my other machines, the first reel stops, then the second, then the third. On this machine, it seems that once the first reel stops, so do the others. The reel stop levers are working properly, but the reels # 2 and # 3 do not keep spinning. I have taken out the reel shaft, and oiled it, but no luck. Any ideas?

My second problem is that whenever I put in a coin, and cycle the machine, it pays out one coin. It seems to pay properly on winning combinations, but always pays one coin, even if it not a winning combination. It has been driving me crazy trying to figure out, but I am stumped.

If anyone has any ideas, and can point me in the right direction, it would be much appreciated.

Phil

[pb4sc]

Hi All,
After a 7 hour diagnosis on Saturday, I am a little closer to getting my mech to work properly. I solved the problem with the payout. The problem was with the Horizontal payout arms. The bottom one (MLB-7882) which is for the two cherry payout, was bent upward. Because of this, the arm was not stopping the payout slide from sliding all the way back. It would go over the top of the payout slide, the two cherry slide will go all the way back, and proceed to pay two coins. (I know I said it was paying one in my original post, but it was two)

I removed the bottom horizontal payout arm, gently bent it downward, replaced it, and that issue is now fixed.

As far as the reels number two and three not spinning properly, part of the problem was an "id10t" error. I had not lowered part # MLB-8398 into it's correct position, and this was not allowing reels 2 and 3 to spin properly.

While the reels are spinning much better, reel #3 is still not working as it should. It seems that three of the upper payout levers are not getting pushed back far enough when I cycle the machine, so they are touching the third reel disk when it spins. This is causing friction, which prevents it from spinning properly. My first thought was to grind the ends of the upper payout levers fingers, down a bit, to give it some room. However, as I thought about it some more, this looked to be a little drastic. Any thoughts?

I appreciate any help.

Phil

[leospanner]

Good job in figuring it out. I'm still learning too. I've been a bit hesitant to "bend" things, but it is one of the ways these old machines were "adjusted". Thanks for sharing.

[altort]

Sounds like your vertical fingers springs are too tight, try softer springs, if you dont have softer springs try and stretch the ssprings a bit.

[mechanic]

Nice to see you figured out some of the problems!! Looks like you still need to fix the reels all stopping at once. To do this you will need to totally disassemble the reel bundle clean and burnish the outer spindles and run a small piece of cloth through to clean the inside of the spindles. When reassembling the bundle be sure the hubs do not bump up against each other as this will cause the reels to bind to one another stopping two or all at the same time. If unsure use a automotive spark plug feeler gauge to ensure the gap about .35 set between the two hubs and then tighten the hubs to the spindles. Also be sure there are no burrs or sharp edges on the spindles before reassembly as this too can cause reel binding. Worst case is the reel spindles are bent and or the reel shaft is.

[pb4sc]

Thanks everyone for the tips. Loosening the springs helped, however the real problem was the kicker rubbing against the edge of the reel disk. Seems my reel disk is slightly warped. After adjusting the kicker, so it was no longer rubbing against the reel disk, my reels are now working perfectly. I appreciate all the feedback, and when I have some time, I am going to make sure that the machine is paying out correctly.

Phil